Comments on: Mind games http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/ Tue, 22 May 2012 14:02:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: Ezra http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8645 Wed, 30 May 2007 20:50:13 +0000 http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8645 Killer Queen Christina Killer Queen Christina

]]> by: Terri http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8476 Wed, 16 May 2007 02:05:58 +0000 http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8476 ...hours of entertainment. …hours of entertainment.

]]> by: Ezra http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8475 Wed, 16 May 2007 01:33:16 +0000 http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8475 Terri got "Doctor Doctor Zhivago" which made me snort and laugh OUT LOUD much longer than I should have. I don't know what is up with my sudden <a href="http://areasofmyexpertise.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">HODGMANESQUE CAPS</a>. That is all. Terri got “Doctor Doctor Zhivago” which made me snort and laugh OUT LOUD much longer than I should have.

I don’t know what is up with my sudden HODGMANESQUE CAPS. That is all.

]]> by: Ezra http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8473 Wed, 16 May 2007 01:07:18 +0000 http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8473 Your meme has taken over our lives. Please make it stop. The following are what Terri and I came up with over dinner at Johnny D's: they were playing a lot of 80's and our challenge was to come up with one per artist played. We missed some, and some of these were off the menu bonus tracks. Canary in a Coalminer's Daughter Robert DeNiro's Waiting for Guffman Booty Call Me Stand and Deliverance Personal Jesus Christ Superstar It Happened One Night In Bangkok Cars (I know this is lame, but Gary Numan only has one-word song titles!!! It temporarily spawned a sub-meme where we attempted to find songs that *were* movie titles that weren't the themesong) Withnail and I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For Doctor Doctor Zhivago God Save the Queen Christina It's a Miracle on 34th Street Just Like Heaven Can Wait Pictures of You and Me and Everyone We Know In Your House of Sand and Fog Child's Play for Today The Upstairs Room with a View (as you see, Terri's Cure fandom kicked into overdrive a couple titles ago) Glory Days of Thunder (if you combine it with the above "Days of Thunder Road", you get "Glory Days of Thunder Road"-- a Springsteen DOUBLE THREAT!!!) Inbetween Days of Wine and Roses Chains of Love Story Pride (in the Name of Love), Actually Betty Blue Monday The Return of the King of Pain The Young Guns of Brixton Cradle Will Rock the Casbah American Werewolf in London Calling Getting Better Off Dead White Men Can't Jump (for your Love) Your meme has taken over our lives. Please make it stop. The following are what Terri and I came up with over dinner at Johnny D’s: they were playing a lot of 80’s and our challenge was to come up with one per artist played. We missed some, and some of these were off the menu bonus tracks.

Canary in a Coalminer’s Daughter
Robert DeNiro’s Waiting for Guffman
Booty Call Me
Stand and Deliverance
Personal Jesus Christ Superstar
It Happened One Night In Bangkok
Cars (I know this is lame, but Gary Numan only has one-word song titles!!! It temporarily spawned a sub-meme where we attempted to find songs that *were* movie titles that weren’t the themesong)

Withnail and I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For
Doctor Doctor Zhivago
God Save the Queen Christina
It’s a Miracle on 34th Street
Just Like Heaven Can Wait
Pictures of You and Me and Everyone We Know
In Your House of Sand and Fog
Child’s Play for Today
The Upstairs Room with a View (as you see, Terri’s Cure fandom kicked into overdrive a couple titles ago)
Glory Days of Thunder (if you combine it with the above “Days of Thunder Road”, you get “Glory Days of Thunder Road”– a Springsteen DOUBLE THREAT!!!)
Inbetween Days of Wine and Roses
Chains of Love Story
Pride (in the Name of Love), Actually
Betty Blue Monday
The Return of the King of Pain
The Young Guns of Brixton
Cradle Will Rock the Casbah
American Werewolf in London Calling
Getting Better Off Dead
White Men Can’t Jump (for your Love)

]]> by: Ezra http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8468 Tue, 15 May 2007 14:01:23 +0000 http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8468 The Matrix Revolutions Will Not Be Televised. The Matrix Revolutions Will Not Be Televised.

]]> by: 2fs http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8459 Tue, 15 May 2007 00:57:26 +0000 http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8459 Incidentally: the real diff between "off Annie" and "off Fanny" is that the latter has far stronger aspiration on the "F" of "Fanny." If you say the two to yourself, and listen closely, you'll hear that "off Fanny" has a puff of air along with that "F" (put a lit match in front of you to prove it) whereas "off Annie" does not. Now, if only we could stick burning matches in front of the singers as they recorded it...then we'd have our answer! Incidentally: the real diff between “off Annie” and “off Fanny” is that the latter has far stronger aspiration on the “F” of “Fanny.” If you say the two to yourself, and listen closely, you’ll hear that “off Fanny” has a puff of air along with that “F” (put a lit match in front of you to prove it) whereas “off Annie” does not.

Now, if only we could stick burning matches in front of the singers as they recorded it…then we’d have our answer!

]]> by: 2fs http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8457 Mon, 14 May 2007 15:17:04 +0000 http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8457 But: a man appeared to me upon a flaming pie, and he said unto me, it is "Fanny" with an F, as in the name, not as in your bottom, silly; and verily I say therefore unto you, never shall it be "Annie"! Anyway: to me, the singers clearly articulate a second "F" there...but I suppose unless someone e-mails Robbie Robertson for clarification, this will have to be one of those unresolvable issues. (Except that I'm right.) But: a man appeared to me upon a flaming pie, and he said unto me, it is “Fanny” with an F, as in the name, not as in your bottom, silly; and verily I say therefore unto you, never shall it be “Annie”! Anyway: to me, the singers clearly articulate a second “F” there…but I suppose unless someone e-mails Robbie Robertson for clarification, this will have to be one of those unresolvable issues. (Except that I’m right.)

]]> by: Ezra http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8455 Mon, 14 May 2007 14:04:15 +0000 http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8455 Unless you actually pause for a full second after you say "off", it's really very hard to tell whether it's Fannie or Annie. And I know it doesn't matter, but just for the sake of clarification and argument... 0) Why Easy Rider? I saw it in the theater and the sound was good. "Fannie" also makes less sense in context. The scene where it plays is all about freedom and riding your big ol bike into a hippie utopia. "Take a load off Fannie" sounds goofy, like your feet are tired; they were clearly shooting for more. 1) You can't believe everything you read on the internet 2) Unless the interviewer did the interview in writing, he probably just said "takealoadoffannie" just as unintelligibly as anybody would. I have it on good authority* that Danko was not offered a chance to edit the transcript, as he was too busy riding his big 'ol motorcycle back to his hippie utopia. 3) OK 4) It still sounds like it could go either way. *ok, this is made up. Unless you actually pause for a full second after you say “off”, it’s really very hard to tell whether it’s Fannie or Annie. And I know it doesn’t matter, but just for the sake of clarification and argument…

0) Why Easy Rider? I saw it in the theater and the sound was good. “Fannie” also makes less sense in context. The scene where it plays is all about freedom and riding your big ol bike into a hippie utopia. “Take a load off Fannie” sounds goofy, like your feet are tired; they were clearly shooting for more.

1) You can’t believe everything you read on the internet
2) Unless the interviewer did the interview in writing, he probably just said “takealoadoffannie” just as unintelligibly as anybody would. I have it on good authority* that Danko was not offered a chance to edit the transcript, as he was too busy riding his big ‘ol motorcycle back to his hippie utopia.
3) OK
4) It still sounds like it could go either way.

*ok, this is made up.

]]> by: Editrix http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8451 Mon, 14 May 2007 03:14:41 +0000 http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8451 Um, just a reminder on lyrical verisimilitude: I was making titles up in my dream. Last night I dreamed I gave birth to a beautiful baby boy orangutan, and had to nurse him every 15 minutes while bombs rained down in a world war started by Kim Jong Il. Terri and Ezra, your contributions are brilliant! It reminds me of happy times spent with my music-obsessed friends at clubs before the bands started up, seeing who could come up with the most song titles that mention fruit, or band names featuring colors. Good clean fun. Um, just a reminder on lyrical verisimilitude: I was making titles up in my dream. Last night I dreamed I gave birth to a beautiful baby boy orangutan, and had to nurse him every 15 minutes while bombs rained down in a world war started by Kim Jong Il.

Terri and Ezra, your contributions are brilliant!

It reminds me of happy times spent with my music-obsessed friends at clubs before the bands started up, seeing who could come up with the most song titles that mention fruit, or band names featuring colors. Good clean fun.

]]> by: 2fs http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8450 Mon, 14 May 2007 02:41:52 +0000 http://www.patheticfallacy.org/2007/05/mind-games/#comment-8450 Not sure what <i>Easy Rider</i> has to do with it (other than the song being featured in the movie), but: 1. <a href="http://theband.hiof.no/lyrics/the_weight.html" rel="nofollow">This extensive and fairly authoritative-looking site</a> has it as "Fanny"; 2. In <a href="http://thecelebritycafe.com/interviews/rick_danko.html" rel="nofollow">this interview with Rick Danko</a>, he doesn't correct the interviewer when the interviewer says "Fanny"; 3. There's a "Miss Fanny" in the last verse, corroborating the reading of "Fanny" in the chorus (unless this is an early draft of "Rock'n'Roll Dreams'll Come Through"...); 4. Most importantly, as <a href="http://tonerbomb.warpmail.net/band.mp3" rel="nofollow">this excerpt from the chorus</a> of the original recording indicates, they're clearly singing "Fanny" and not "Annie." Case closed. Not sure what Easy Rider has to do with it (other than the song being featured in the movie), but:

1. This extensive and fairly authoritative-looking site has it as “Fanny”;

2. In this interview with Rick Danko, he doesn’t correct the interviewer when the interviewer says “Fanny”;

3. There’s a “Miss Fanny” in the last verse, corroborating the reading of “Fanny” in the chorus (unless this is an early draft of “Rock’n'Roll Dreams’ll Come Through”…);

4. Most importantly, as this excerpt from the chorus of the original recording indicates, they’re clearly singing “Fanny” and not “Annie.”

Case closed.

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